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Last Post Sep 6, 2009 9:19 PM by: hiyaitsmeee
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Re: Catholic Mythbusters

Sep 6, 2009 9:19 PM

A quote I wanted to share, cuz I found it and thought it was awesome :)

"Jesus emptied Himself that we might be filled--filled not for our sakes alone, but for the sake of our neighbor.

He showed us how to accept indifference, during His infancy.

He showed us how to accept loneliness, during his hidden life.

He showed us how to accept success by His attitude to the crowds proclaiming Him King.

He showed us how to accomplish God's Will in the Agony in the Garden.

He showed us how to accept pain, insults and death on the Cross."--Mother Angelica

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Re: Catholic Mythbusters

Sep 6, 2009 9:11 PM

> hey yall!:) i'm back, and glad yall brought that thing up.
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> i'm really happy that yall put the faq thing on here, that was really cool:)
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> i definitely understand Catholicism much better now.
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awesome :]
> Also, as someone said, this don't have to be a place for fighting but a place for enlightenment. I've discussed with some ppl on here various topics and it generally isn't too bad. obviously i'm not perfect, but i think we mostly understand each other and agree to disagree. discussing religion isn't a personal attack. i may disagree with a point that someone says, but that doesn't mean my feelings for that individual have gone south.
> :)
> just thought more people should know that:)

quoted for truth ;)
I don't mind discussing religion, I think people can do it without hating each other or starting a huge fight. I think it's interesting to learn other people's beliefs, I can't wait to take world religion =)

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Re: Catholic Mythbusters

Sep 6, 2009 7:57 PM

Hi Girls! I'm here to continue to help answering questions. Glad to see the thread has become active again. :)

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Re: Catholic Mythbusters

Sep 6, 2009 6:50 PM

hey yall!:) i'm back, and glad yall brought that thing up.

i'm really happy that yall put the faq thing on here, that was really cool:)

i definitely understand Catholicism much better now.

Also, as someone said, this don't have to be a place for fighting but a place for enlightenment. I've discussed with some ppl on here various topics and it generally isn't too bad. obviously i'm not perfect, but i think we mostly understand each other and agree to disagree. discussing religion isn't a personal attack. i may disagree with a point that someone says, but that doesn't mean my feelings for that individual have gone south.
:)
just thought more people should know that:)

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Re: Catholic Mythbusters

Sep 5, 2009 8:41 PM

... oops double post =/

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Edited by hiyaitsmeee at Sep 5, 2009 9:41 PM EDT

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Re: Catholic Mythbusters

Aug 24, 2009 9:56 PM

This thread is still here.... :)
just so you all know =p

Anyways, I just went to a retreat over the weekend and the theme was "Let Go and Fall into God's Arms"... I just felt like sharing some of it. It was about trusting in God and letting God fill our needs. Recognizing that God is present in our lives, and believing in Him is part of this trust, but another part is letting go, trusting that God will catch us. Jesus said that faith the size of the mustard seed could move mountains, after all.
Another point is that it seems simple to accept what God wants when what God wants is what we want. But when God's plan doesn't seem the same as ours it is tough, and we need to trust in God and have faith that His plan is the best for us.

One of my favourite bible verses since I was little (camp memory verse years and years ago) that was discussed a lot at the retreat:

For I know what I have planned for you,’ says the Lord. ‘I have plans to prosper you, not to harm you. I have plans to give you a future filled with hope. (Jeremiah 29:11)

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Edited by hiyaitsmeee at Sep 5, 2009 9:39 PM EDT

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offline RuN4YoUrLiFe71
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Re: Catholic Mythbusters

Aug 15, 2009 5:35 PM

well, for me, i want to know that something is true.
i don't just accept things because a teacher or parent or writer tells it to me. maybe thats just me though. but i do understand now being totally decided on an issue. there are things i honestly haven't studied enough to have a well-formed opinion about, but that simple issue isn't going to make or break my belief in Christ.

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Re: Catholic Mythbusters

Aug 14, 2009 3:06 PM

Personally, when people ask me my views on creation, I say that I don't really know, I believe God created the world but not how. Is that weird? lol. I haven't studied it much in science, and I don't see how it makes a difference faith wise. It seems like everyone else has a specific belief, eg. the world was created in 7 days.

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Re: Catholic Mythbusters

Aug 8, 2009 8:31 PM

Its hard to say if dinosaurs and humans coexisted. While, I'll probably be looking for some Catholic answers over the next few days, does it matter? Like I said, I know very little about the scientific time line of the earth. Not my area of expertise.
If they did or didn't coexist doesn't prove or disprove anything about Faith. But it is an interesting question. Is there any specific reason you posed it proudtexasgirl?

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Re: Catholic Mythbusters

Aug 8, 2009 8:23 PM

> To the Catholics, respectfully:
> If Genisis is inaccurate in Creation, how can you take the rest of the Bible for truth?
It's not inaccurate. It is 100% true in the context that God intended it to be read, and we know that the bible is not always literal. However like I said, there are many Catholics who take Genesis literally.

Proudtexasgirl
I don't believe dinosaurs and humans coexisted. The evidence I was showing you was from another point of view, which is why I italicized it. I was copied and pasted from a young earth creationist website.

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Re: Catholic Mythbusters

Aug 8, 2009 6:40 PM

This is quite long, but worth reading.

proudtexasgirl:

I have some problems with the whole spontaneous combustion thing. No evidence for this at all, whereas, the New Testament (2nd part of the Bible) is backed up by 9 historically accurate sources that are archeology backed up. Most things from that time have 3 or so. Nine is incredible. Also, I have never thought about Eve having different or the same chromosomes. I would assume that she had different ones which is certainly not hard for God to do. The fact that we are considering this dilemma is assuming that God already created the universe out of nothing. Certainly some minor changes in genes aren't challenging. Also, no it wouldn't be incest for Eve and Adam, I believe. We've discussed this on here before. Here is something that I didn't write that answers this problem:

1. the incest problem has generally been understood as centered around the blending of identical genes...as weaker genes get amplified during incestuous breeding, so families produce weaker and less thriving offspring...the 'incest' that is allowed in the opening generations of the bible would not have had to deal with this...the gene pool would have been TOTALLY pure at the beginning, and genetic flaws were likely to have been negligible until the water canopy/thermal blanket was destroyed in the Flood...at that point, with radiation now pouring through, the genetic load would begin being a problem.......

So, :
"At least two things can be said in response to this reproach. First, if the human race was propagated from a single pair, as we believe the evidence indicates, such closely related marriages were unavoidable. The demand for some other way of getting the race started is an unfair expectation. In the second place, the notion of incest must be probed more closely. At first the sin of incest was connected with sexual relationships between parents and children. Only afterward was the notion of incest extended to sibling relationships. By Moses’ time there were laws governing all forms of incest (Lev 18:7–17; 20:11–12, 14, 17, 20–21; Deut 22:30; 27:20, 22, 23). These laws clearly state that sexual relations or marriage is forbidden with a mother, father, stepmother, sister, brother, half brother, half sister, granddaughter, daughter-in-law, son-in-law, aunt, uncle or brother’s wife. The Bible, in the meantime, notes that Abraham married his half sister (Gen 20:12). Therefore, the phenomenon is not unknown in Scripture. Prior to Moses’ time, incest in many of the forms later proscribed were not thought to be wrong.



Remember that I said that micro evolution does occur within species. That is known fact and is Biblical. What is not known fact and is not Biblical is that macro evolution occurs causing new species to form.

I have never claimed that we aren't completely different and deformed. That is possible. I don't know. You'll have to ask the other girl.

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Re: Catholic Mythbusters

Aug 8, 2009 9:22 AM

And as for endless mutations, it is possible for mutations to occur. That is evolution. People say that early humans were shorter and hairier. It is possible that Adam and Eve could have been like that. But we do know that they aren't that different from us because God created them in His image and he created us in His image as well.

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Re: Catholic Mythbusters

Aug 8, 2009 9:20 AM

proudtexasgirl:
Who's to say there weren't other humans that God created? Again, the Bible is not a science text book. You cannot take everything literally. Genesis is truthful in the creation story. It is saying that God did create humans and animals, and he made a covenant with the earth and its people. So, God may have created 20 people, but the point of adam and eve was that God created us in His own image and Eve came from Adam. How do you know God didn't give her her own set of genes? Its not written in the Bible that he didn't.

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Re: Catholic Mythbusters

Aug 8, 2009 12:24 AM

(sorry it cut off)

for lack of a better word, compared to what adam and eve looked like. even that compares to evolution: with a limited number of chromosomes, mutations are bound to occur making change and diversity inevitable.

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Re: Catholic Mythbusters

Aug 8, 2009 12:19 AM

i believe it is entirely possible that we could have come from a spontanious combustion that formed micro-organisms that eventually spawned and mutated and created the variety of life we have today. i suppose it is equally as possible that god shaped adam and even who created the human race as it is today. the only problem i have with adam and eve is: eve came from adam so wouldnt they have the same set of genes? if thats true then its essentially the same idea as evolution that spawns and mutates to create new and different chromosomes. now if even had her own set of genes (or i suppose even if she had the same as adams), how did a whole human race come from two people? first of all, thats incest and im pretty sure the bible doesnt approve of that. and because of the lack of varity in the gene pool, mutations had to have occured and with all the mutations, who is to say that we are anything like adam and eve were? with all the mutuations that could have occured, we may be completely deformed, for lack of a

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